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EagleDelta1 · May 27, 2009, 06:02 AM // 06:02

Found this editorial on the top ten most misused words in reference to MMOs. They can be found in forum posts, journalism or everyday conversation.

Take a look for yourselves and discuss!

http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...re=3092&bhcp=1

Brett Kuntz · May 27, 2009, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Not to be an ass, but that article is extreme trash. The 10 words they came up with are a joke and completely open to interpretation. I thought they would go after words like "nerf" and "imbalance" and "overpowered" but I guess not.

diehuman · May 27, 2009, 06:19 AM // 06:19

that will be "Ten Most Misused Words in WoW" not "Ten Most Misused Words in MMOs"

Eragon Zarroc · May 27, 2009, 06:40 AM // 06:40

lol, where is l33t and nub? meh ;-)

Chocobo1 · May 27, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01

Was hoping they'd explain QQ, and how it comes from Warcraft 3's Alt QQ (Quit the game), not the stupid crying face everyone uses it for -_-;

Sarevok Thordin · May 27, 2009, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Originally Posted by diehuman

that will be "Ten Most Misused Words in WoW" not "Ten Most Misused Words in MMOs"

This.

If they are going to talk about MMOs, talk about more than just 1.

uzumaki · May 27, 2009, 07:08 AM // 07:08

lol is the most misused word by far. Yes, it's officially recognised as a word on the interwebs. Using the statistics which i made up, 99.9% of cases show that when typed, "lol" doesn't come with a corresponding laugh out loud irl.

lol.

Hermos · May 27, 2009, 07:09 AM // 07:09

I'd say "noob" would be #1. What pisses me off is when people use the word as a verb, in sentences such as, "I am noob" or "you are noob" - call me a grammar Nazi, but isn't 'noob' a noun, not an effing verb?

It just sounds weird. Sounds like you're an illegal immigrant trying to get past passport control faking your nationality. x_x

EagleDelta1 · May 27, 2009, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by kunt0r

Not to be an ass, but that article is extreme trash. The 10 words they came up with are a joke and completely open to interpretation. I thought they would go after words like "nerf" and "imbalance" and "overpowered" but I guess not.

not to be an ass, but if you disagree with an article/person's opinion you can't just say it's wrong and leave it at that. You have to give reasons, proof or some sort of backup for your claim otherwise it carries no weight. As for many of the words he refers to, I'm inclined to agree with the author on many of them.

lol isn't a word.

Noob is overused(not misused, don't confuse the meanings of the two words) in ALL Multiplayer games. I assume that is why it was left out.

IMO, I would say regardless of all the other "words" the author chose, WoW Clone is the most misused. Most of the forum posts and media stories using this word refer to features in WoW that HAVE existed since long, long before WoW ever existed. Heck, some of them have existed since before MMOs and even before Video Game RPGs. Not to mention the simple use of the word clone makes it misused.

Brett Kuntz · May 27, 2009, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by EagleDelta1

not to be an ass, but if you disagree with an article/person's opinion you can't just say it's wrong and leave it at that. You have to give reasons, proof or some sort of backup for your claim otherwise it carries no weight. As for many of the words he refers to, I'm inclined to agree with the author on many of them.

The article was boring and uninformative compared to what it could have been. They could have written a much better one if they had only put more than 2.7 seconds worth of thought into planning it. I already gave examples of 3 words that are often used but many people may not know their origin or true meaning. 4 of the 10 words had WoW in them, what a bunk article.

tmakinen · May 27, 2009, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Hermos

What pisses me off is when people use the word as a verb, in sentences such as, "I am noob"

Hmm? That doesn't look like a verb to me but rather a predicate adjective, like "I am happy".

I have never seen 'noob' used as a verb, that would be something like "Don't noob that task".

EagleDelta1 · May 27, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by kunt0r

The article was boring and uninformative compared to what it could have been. They could have written a much better one if they had only put more than 2.7 seconds worth of thought into planning it. I already gave examples of 3 words that are often used but many people may not know their origin or true meaning. 4 of the 10 words had WoW in them, what a bunk article.

Your "3 words" can't be qualified as misused as they have always, in my experience, been used with their correct intended meaning. Nerf, overpowered and imbalance would be more in line with "overused" words. Nerf, in particular, is never misused as ppl use it to refer to a certain part of a game or software that is reduced in functionality or power. Overpowered and imbalance are more of opinion based words, and just b/c the posters/journalists using those words don't have the same opinion as you or me, doesn't make the words misused.

As to the words having "WoW" in them, read closely and you can tell that he's also referring to journalists in the media referencing MMOs. Really, how many players refer to a new MMO as a "WoW Killer"? I've only seen it in media.

Divine Ashes · May 27, 2009, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

Hmm? That doesn't look like a verb to me but rather a predicate adjective, like "I am happy".

I have never seen 'noob' used as a verb, that would be something like "Don't noob that task".

dude, you just noobed that response...

...I like it...

ANYWAYS, the article wasn't that great. Most of it was rehashes of everything that is already known, and, as was put by a different poster, most of those words are left to each own's interpretation and opinion.

EagleDelta1 · May 27, 2009, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by Divine Ashes

dude, you just noobed that response...

...I like it...

ANYWAYS, the article wasn't that great. Most of it was rehashes of everything that is already known, and, as was put by a different poster, most of those words are left to each own's interpretation and opinion.

How are innovation and vaporware, words with clear dictionary definitions AND industry uses, open to interpretation.

How are industry used/created words like "sandbox" and "Launch Date" open to interpretation/opinion outside of the companies and media that uses them.

Failure is one that IS open to interpretation, but the point in the article is that failure to defeat the "king" on top doesn't mean the game failed. GW, EVE and FFXI aren't anywhere near as profitable or popular as WoW, but they are all far from failures. That was his point.

And, I'm gonna say it again, WoW clone is THE most overused word in MMO forums and discussions. Many of the ideas/opinions that usually prompt someone to use "WoW Clone" in retaliation are in reference to features that have existed since before WoW. And that is the point the author is trying to make.

I'm going to reiterate this. The author was talking about misused words NOT overused words.

MoriaOrc · May 27, 2009, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Divine Ashes

dude, you just noobed that response...

I know I use 'noobed' on a regular basis with some of my friends (usually as "getting noobed", I'll leave it to the grammar experts to tell me what part of speech that is).

Also, although it's not the exact 10 words I would have picked, I'd say overall it's a decent list. Albeit nothing really new, or 'Innovative' as the case may be.

Cuilan · May 27, 2009, 08:21 AM // 08:21

The person who wrote that was clearly trolling for comments. I'm sadly not in the mood for reading other people's bait atm.

Divine Ashes · May 27, 2009, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by EagleDelta1

How are innovation and vaporware, words with clear dictionary definitions AND industry uses, open to interpretation.

How are industry used/created words like "sandbox" and "Launch Date" open to interpretation/opinion outside of the companies and media that uses them.

Failure is one that IS open to interpretation, but the point in the article is that failure to defeat the "king" on top doesn't mean the game failed. GW, EVE and FFXI aren't anywhere near as profitable or popular as WoW, but they are all far from failures. That was his point.

And, I'm gonna say it again, WoW clone is THE most overused word in MMO forums and discussions. Many of the ideas/opinions that usually prompt someone to use "WoW Clone" in retaliation are in reference to features that have existed since before WoW. And that is the point the author is trying to make.

I'm going to reiterate this. The author was talking about misused words NOT overused words.

I agree that WoW clone and WoW killer are misused, but I think they are also terms open to interpretation (which is why they're misused, but also prevents any kind of definition, making it hard to label them as misused). Failure also falls under this category. Your points are well-taken, but I still fail to see a real point in the article. So what, the terms are slightly misused...so are most terms created due to/because of the internet...like nub/noob. The terms are misused because to many people they have different definitions than that which are actually intended (whether this is due to ignorance or just a lack of a solid definition is another thing entirely).

I may just be talking out of my ass. It's 4am, and I need sleep lol.

DreamRunner · May 27, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by Hermos

I'd say "noob" would be #1. What pisses me off is when people use the word as a verb, in sentences such as, "I am noob" or "you are noob" - call me a grammar Nazi, but isn't 'noob' a noun, not an effing verb?

It just sounds weird. Sounds like you're an illegal immigrant trying to get past passport control faking your nationality. x_x

Noob comes from newbie, but yes Noob is a noun. But "I am noob" don't you think that they're just killing off the English language to actually mean "I am a noob?" or "I was being a noob"?

I guess it doesn't really matter since the internet has been hurting the English language for a while now and "I am noob" doesn't make any sense in any-case.

jsshah1 · May 27, 2009, 09:06 AM // 09:06

this whole thread reminds me of the "7 words you cant say on television joke" and krusty on the simpsons. "Yeah? Lawsuit? Oh, come on. My "Seven Words You Can't Say on TV" bit was entirely different from your "Seven Words You Can't Say on TV" bit. So I'm a thief, am I? Well, EXCUUUUUUUUSE MEEEEEE!"

Etta · May 27, 2009, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Haha. I'm starting to think the op is the guy who wrote that article. Are you Jon Wood?